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Re: Redcar West Dyke Road Boom barrier replacement

Unread postby Mike Hodgson » Mon Dec 14, 2015 6:14 pm

S&TEngineer wrote:Interesting. Bet that arrangement isn't in the Highway Code.


There may not be road sign with that particular type of gate as a symbol, but I would think it must fall well within the definition of the traditional "level crossing with gates".

The left hand gate even boasts the traditional big red disc.
I wonder whether the floodlights operate only whilst the crossing is active.
Doesn't look as easy as barriers for any pedestrians to escape if caught the wrong side of the gates.
Presumably still down to the man on duty to spot.
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Re: Redcar West Dyke Road Boom barrier replacement

Unread postby Fast Line Floyd » Tue Dec 15, 2015 1:49 pm

That will cost a few quid to repair if something desides not to stop!
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Re: Redcar West Dyke Road Boom barrier replacement

Unread postby Mike Hodgson » Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:57 pm

Fast Line Floyd wrote:That will cost a few quid to repair if something desides not to stop!


Doubt if they've got any spares in stock either, so we'll want a chap holding a rope with and white pennants until they've ordered it.

There's a sign about CCTV, so they should have his number plate.
I suppose it's our motor insurance premiums going up again next year!
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Re: Redcar West Dyke Road Boom barrier replacement

Unread postby Stuart Johnson » Thu Dec 17, 2015 4:06 pm

Interesting. It looks as though the desire to retain the signal box, and the road running immediately behind it, meant that there is no room for conventional barriers. Presumably the new sliding gates are used in the same way as barriers, in that they block the entry while leaving the exit clear until traffic has moved off the crossing. But they aren't very fast, and pedestrians will be tempted to try and beat them, especially as there is no footbridge.

Can anyone who knows the area comment?
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Re: Redcar West Dyke Road Boom barrier replacement

Unread postby John Webb » Sun Dec 20, 2015 10:20 pm

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Re: Redcar West Dyke Road Boom barrier replacement

Unread postby Mike Hodgson » Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:01 pm

"Thanks John.
"Fast stop edge sensors" presumably means they should bounce back when they hit a bus half way over.
All sounds a bit more expensive than gates made with the finest seasoned timber.
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Re: Redcar West Dyke Road Boom barrier replacement

Unread postby John Hinson » Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:11 pm

Mike Hodgson wrote:"Fast stop edge sensors" presumably means they should bounce back when they hit a bus half way over.

That's unlikely. They are supervised.

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Re: Redcar West Dyke Road Boom barrier replacement

Unread postby kbarber » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:50 am

John Hinson wrote:
Mike Hodgson wrote:"Fast stop edge sensors" presumably means they should bounce back when they hit a bus half way over.

That's unlikely. They are supervised.

John

A new euphemism for a signalman?
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Re: Redcar West Dyke Road Boom barrier replacement

Unread postby LowdhamGPR » Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:17 am

The box going is not a red herring.

I was in the box only a couple of weeks ago and took a couple of internal shots but unfortunately no phots of the boom gates nor works to facilitate the new gates primarily because it was dark and I had limited time.

However in talking to the signaller I gleaned the following...

Up until recent times when it got windy the signaller would deploy a piece of cane cut to a key dimension such that he would wedge it between the wall and the barrier close button, he would then run down to the crossing and literally push the gates to assist the struggling motors. This practice was outlawed by the elfunsayfty police so when the wind got up the gates were closed to the road and Redcar was gridlocked until such time as the wind subsided.

The reason conventional gates could not be used was the relative position of the box and the crossing. The box oversails the footpath and road, indeed it has a glass panel in the floor so he can look down on top of the heads of pedestrians beneath and ensure they are clear of the crossing. If they needed to act quickly which clearly they did and the box was not due to go any time soon then this seems a novel and reasonably elegant solution.

http://flic.kr/p/BSiftF

Note the redundant cane in the bottom right hand corner of the shot propped up against the wall !
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Re: Redcar West Dyke Road Boom barrier replacement

Unread postby AndyB » Mon Dec 28, 2015 8:13 pm

There are no regulations relating to barrier design other than those specified in the level crossing's own governing Order. It's interesting that because it's (technically) a gate, targets have been provided.
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Re: Redcar West Dyke Road Boom barrier replacement

Unread postby 31422 » Wed Aug 17, 2016 10:20 pm

A question from a colleague today; apparently when the barrier slides clear of the road, the lights remain flashing for about 10 seconds. Obviously this still means road traffic should wait, but those that do soon get rebuked from drivers behind.

Is the delay part of the new set up? If so, for what reason>

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Re: Redcar West Dyke Road Boom barrier replacement

Unread postby John Webb » Thu Aug 18, 2016 9:05 am

Has anyone got a photograph of these new 'gates' yet, please?
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Re: Redcar West Dyke Road Boom barrier replacement

Unread postby John Hinson » Thu Aug 18, 2016 10:33 am

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Re: Redcar West Dyke Road Boom barrier replacement

Unread postby John Webb » Thu Aug 18, 2016 3:12 pm

Thanks!
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Re: Redcar West Dyke Road Boom barrier replacement

Unread postby ex Probationer » Sun Aug 21, 2016 7:43 am

John Webb wrote:Has anyone got a photograph of these new 'gates' yet, please?


The manufacturer's website is here:

http://www.edsuk.com/sliding_gate_telescopic_cantilevered_redcar_west_dyke_road_network_rail_level_crossing_risqs_level_up_achilles.html

It has a good quality video and a few pre-installation photos.

31422 wrote:A question from a colleague today; apparently when the barrier slides clear of the road, the lights remain flashing for about 10 seconds. Obviously this still means road traffic should wait, but those that do soon get rebuked from drivers behind.


The delay before the red lights stop can clearly been seen in the above video. Presumably this is classed by Network Rail as 'crossing mis-use' as several motorists pass the red lights.

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