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Accident at Hockham Road level crossing, Norfolk, 10/04/2016

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Accident at Hockham Road level crossing, Norfolk, 10/04/2016

Unread postby Mike Hodgson » Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:56 pm

Local news is reporting an accident involving a passenger train and a tractor at Roudham near Thetford, with 21 injured. The cab is badly damaged and the driver was airlifted to hospital, but fortunately it seems nobody has life-threatening injuries. The TV coverage showed conventional gates, so it seems it is not a problem with one of the new OD crossings recently installed on the Norwich-Cambridge line.
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Unread postby beast66606 » Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:52 pm

It was one of the new "Press button and wait for green light" crossings, which are being trialled - the train stopped just beyond the next crossing which was conventional. (I visited and photographed the scene this afternoon)

The user controls had been bagged, except for the button and presumably degraded working was in use but I'd have to say the operating procedure wasn't immediately clear when the light is bagged but the button is clear. I couldn't get near to the controls as it was taped off as a crime scene.

10 injuries, only 1 - the tractor driver - was serious.
Better to be thought a fool than to type a response that confirms it.

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Unread postby micron » Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:52 pm

So which actual crossing was it?
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Unread postby beast66606 » Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:54 pm

Hockhams
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Unread postby micron » Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:00 pm

beast66606 wrote:Hockhams



Ah, so that's going to be an interesting conversation tomorrow!
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Unread postby Mike Stone » Mon Apr 11, 2016 2:58 pm

But PC Tony Orton from the British Transport Police did say officers were rarely called to incidents at unmanned crossings.

He said: “At unmanned crossings, or user work crossings as they’re also known, it is up to the driver of the train to contact the signaller before going through. It’s dependent on them complying with the instructions that are on the crossings.”
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One hopes a slip of the tongue.
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Unread postby John Hinson » Tue Apr 12, 2016 6:00 am

More likely a slip of the journalist's fingers on keyboard, not at all unusual. Obviously it should say "driver of the vehicle".

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Unread postby Mike Hodgson » Tue Apr 12, 2016 6:24 am

The copper probably just said "the driver" and the journalist put two and two together to make five.
"User work crossings" is probably a slight misquote too.
It makes you wonder how much of the explanation the journalist understood though, and whether he would know how to cross the line.
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Unread postby JRB » Tue Apr 12, 2016 8:37 am

"Journalists crossing lines" is also ambiguous.
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Unread postby John Hinson » Tue Apr 12, 2016 9:36 am

Mike Hodgson wrote:It makes you wonder how much of the explanation the journalist understood though, and whether he would know how to cross the line.

I expect most journalists can read, and would read the sign relevant to such a crossing if they had cause to use one.

You cannot expect any and every journalist or motorist to have knowledge of every different type of level crossing that exists in the UK. If you do, I commend you. I certainly don't.

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Unread postby StevieG » Wed Apr 13, 2016 12:03 pm

Mike Hodgson wrote: " .... "User work crossings" is probably a slight misquote too. .... "
A slight misquote, yes, but unlikely to mislead, I'd say, Mike.
"UWC" for User-Worked Crossing is in frequent internal use, including some official documentation, to refer to those instances where use of the LC includes users opening the crossing themselves, usually by opening simple hand-gates or operating what are sometimes called 'rural barriers' [synchronised lifting barriers operated by crossing users (normally hydraulically-worked AFAIK) ], which, like the gates, are not interlocked with any signalling : (I'm sure you're aware of the examples of both types between Arlesey and Biggleswade Mike, but I outline them for the possible benefit of some other readers.)

( Does anyone know of any other type of crossing covered by "UWC"? )
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Unread postby Mike Hodgson » Wed Apr 13, 2016 10:52 pm

StevieG wrote:( Does anyone know of any other type of crossing covered by "UWC"? )

Rather off topic but there is (or perhaps was) a crossing on the NYMR that's worked by Levisham box when open but becomes a UWC when the box is switched out - protected by the rather improbable combination of a slotted post semaphore and a drivers white light. I believe there were proposals to makes several changes to this crossing however.
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Unread postby ex Probationer » Thu Apr 14, 2016 7:37 am

beast66606 wrote:It was one of the new "Press button and wait for green light" crossings, which are being trialled - the train stopped just beyond the next crossing which was conventional. (I visited and photographed the scene this afternoon)

The user controls had been bagged, except for the button and presumably degraded working was in use but I'd have to say the operating procedure wasn't immediately clear when the light is bagged but the button is clear. I couldn't get near to the controls as it was taped off as a crime scene.


Hockham Road (ETN 99m 67ch) level crossing was upgraded to an "Enhanced User Worked Crossing" as part of the Ely- Norwich resignalling back in 2012.

The EBI Gate 200 crossing system is made by Bombardier, which I understood had Network Rail "Product Approval" when it was installed.

The following photos were both taken by myself in April 2013 and show the arrangements at that time.
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Unread postby Andrew Waugh » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:43 pm

Hmm. Check green light is showing. Open both gates. Check that green light is still showing. Drive across crossing.

What could possibly go wrong?
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Unread postby davidwoodcock » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:56 pm

Hmm! "Press button ....." on the list of instructions, but "Push Button" label above the actual button.

Surely it should have failed its safety case just on that alone?
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