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Hi there (Flanders & Swann)

Unread postby andym » Fri Jun 20, 2014 3:45 pm

Hi there,i am currently making a Fictional ROute in TrainSim 2014 that will include the Stations from The Flanders and Swann Song "The Slow Train".I was having all sorts of problems with signalling on my route and finding resources,mainly Photos and track layouts of the Stations.Hopefully your vastly superior knowledge to mine in Signalling will be of great assistance.
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Re: Hi there (Flanders & Swann)

Unread postby John Webb » Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:08 pm

Welcome to the Forum! A number of the stations mentioned in that delightful Flanders and Swan song can be found on the site http://www.disused-stations.org.uk - so that's worth looking at, particularly for the buildings and something of the signalling. JH's MAIN SITE (top left of the Forum pages) may have signalling diagrams for some of them, if you haven't already looked. Another potential source of pictures is http://www.geograph.org.uk - this is based on the 1km by 1km squares of the Ordnance Survey's national grid. While most photos are recent, some contributors post 'historic' pictures from the 1950s and 60s which can be very interesting.

It may also be possible that a few of the stations may be preserved - I can't remember the full list so can't be certain on that score!

By the way, as you are making a computer 'model' this part of the forum seems quite appropriate!
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Re: Hi there (Flanders & Swann)

Unread postby Chris Osment » Fri Jun 20, 2014 6:16 pm

Whilst I can recall the song, and even a few of the station names, it might help to get a more useful response if there was a list of all the stations so that we know the locations required please.
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Re: Hi there (Flanders & Swann)

Unread postby andym » Fri Jun 20, 2014 9:27 pm

thanks for the replies.The ones in the song are as follows.
Millers Dale for Tideswell - http://www.signalbox.org/diagrams.php?id=898
kirby muxloe - http://www.signalbox.org/diagrams.php?id=897
Mow Cop & Scholar Green - http://www.signalbox.org/diagrams.php?id=896
Blandford forum - http://www.s-r-s.org.uk/html/srx/R381.htm
Mortehoe - http://www.s-r-s.org.uk/html/srq/S3532.htm
Midsomer Norton - http://www.s-r-s.org.uk/html/srx/R502.htm
Mumby Rd
Chorlton cum hardy
Chester le St - http://www.signalbox.org/diagrams.php?id=895
Littleton & Badsey - http://www.s-r-s.org.uk/html/gws/S2584.htm
Gorton & Openshaw - http://www.signalbox.org/diagrams.php?id=894
Long Stanton - http://www.signalbox.org/diagrams.php?id=893
Formby - http://www.signalbox.org/diagrams.php?id=892
Four Crosses - http://www.s-r-s.org.uk/html/gwu/S3125.htm
Dunstable town
Dogdyke
Tumby Woodside - http://www.signalbox.org/diagrams.php?id=891
Trouble House Halt
Audlem
Ambergate - 1. http://www.signalbox.org/diagrams.php?id=888 2. http://www.signalbox.org/diagrams.php?id=889 3. http://www.signalbox.org/diagrams.php?id=890
Chittening Platform
Wyrley & Cheslyn Hay
Selby
Goole
St Erth - http://www.s-r-s.org.uk/html/gwf/S1086.htm
St Ives - http://www.s-r-s.org.uk/html/gwf/S1197.htm
Cockermouth for Buttermere - http://www.signalbox.org/diagrams.php?id=887
Armley Moor - http://www.signalbox.org/diagrams.php?id=886
Arram
Pye Hill & Somercotes - http://www.signalbox.org/diagrams.php?id=885
Windmill End. - http://www.s-r-s.org.uk/html/gwr/S2900.htm

I am constrained by the assets contained within the Sim so they wont be 100% accurate with regards the Buildings etc,i will have to substitute them for what i have access to.Also i will ,where possible make the terrain as close to what appears around each Station.

Moderator note - we will keep this as the "master list" and add links for you as they become known - JH
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Re: Hi there (Flanders & Swann)

Unread postby andym » Sat Jun 21, 2014 3:45 pm

I first Started with this to get the hang of Scenic object placement.Unfortunatly its a STEEP learning curve as the Manual is less than comprehensive.I did find some Tutorials on YT and doubtless without them i would have given up!
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The above grew into my first Platform(this was just a placeholder for reference)Along with a bit of "Terraforming",which took me a while to get to grips with.

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Re: Hi there (Flanders & Swann)

Unread postby andym » Sat Jun 21, 2014 4:08 pm

Then came a small Goods and Engine Yard.
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The Colliery and Miners Village was next.

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Re: Hi there (Flanders & Swann)

Unread postby andym » Sat Jun 21, 2014 4:08 pm

A small Farm was next,i used it as an introduction into terrain Painting and "Tile positioning" of assets.

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Re: Hi there (Flanders & Swann)

Unread postby andym » Sat Jun 21, 2014 5:16 pm

This was a shot from my first running of a loco on what track that was laid,going past a disused Station.
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And passing a Platelaying Tean trackside.

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Re: Hi there (Flanders & Swann)

Unread postby John Webb » Sat Jun 21, 2014 6:20 pm

A few of the stations are on the disused stations website, namely:
Millers Dale
Mortehoe
Mumby Rd
Chorlton cum hardy
Long Stanton
Dunstable town
Dogdyke
Tumby Woodside
St Ives (the Huntingdonshire station)

I'm not certain why Selby and Goole are on the list as there are still stations there!
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Re: Hi there (Flanders & Swann)

Unread postby andym » Sat Jun 21, 2014 7:01 pm

I think Goole and Selby were in the list to be axed but got a reprieve.
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Re: Hi there (Flanders & Swann)

Unread postby JRB » Sat Jun 21, 2014 7:54 pm

The stations were all taken from Mr. Beeching's document. Several are survivors. There are 2 or 3 slight errors in the names, an '&' missing for example. F&S's errors, not andym's.
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Re: Hi there (Flanders & Swann)

Unread postby StevieG » Sat Jun 21, 2014 8:19 pm

andym wrote: " thanks for the replies.The ones in the song are as follows. ....
" .... Mow cop
Scolar Green .... "
... for example, wasn't this actually "Mow Cop & Scolar [ or was it Scholar'? ] Green" ? (Though I'm less than 100% sure about it.)
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Re: Hi there (Flanders & Swann)

Unread postby andym » Sat Jun 21, 2014 8:31 pm

LOL,its less than clear from the song but i am sure that Google will provide.There is a Vid on YT that has quite few of the stations photos that marry up to the song.I was going to leave Selby and Goole out for 2 reasons,One they never got closed and two they are not small uncomplicated stations!Troublehouse Halt is really nothing more than a small landing stage that had a beer crate from the Troublehouse Pub used as a step!
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Re: Hi there (Flanders & Swann)

Unread postby John Webb » Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:59 am

StevieG wrote: ... for example, wasn't this actually "Mow Cop & Scolar [ or was it Scholar'? ] Green" ? (Though I'm less than 100% sure about it.)

According to my 1955 atlas of BR, it was indeed "Mow Cop and Scholar Green"
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Re: Hi there (Flanders & Swann)

Unread postby tynewydd » Sun Jun 22, 2014 3:17 pm

There is some information on Mow Cop (& Scholar Green) Station here and in particular the signalbox's demise/resurrection here.

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