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Matlock pre Beeching 1950s early 60s

Unread postby John » Fri Nov 17, 2017 5:30 pm

MATLOCK: Has anyone got a sketch of the signalling arrangements prior the Beeching closure north of Matlock - late 1950's/early 1960s period. :?:
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Re: Matlock pre Beeching 1950s early 60s

Unread postby John Hinson » Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:40 pm

Herewith a c1960 diagram:
https://signalbox.org/diagrams.php?id=1180

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Re: Matlock pre Beeching 1950s early 60s

Unread postby Mike Hodgson » Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:58 pm

Asking lever for blasting - how did that work? Your diagram doesn't show one of those crossbar "stop blast & shunting signals". I would have expected the quarry to ask for the OK when they wanted to blast, but presumably they could do so by default and the lever in the box is to ask them to desist? How would they indicate to the box when it was safe for trains to shunt or run?
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Re: Matlock pre Beeching 1950s early 60s

Unread postby John Hinson » Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:29 pm

No idea.
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Re: Matlock pre Beeching 1950s early 60s

Unread postby Pete2320 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:26 am

I've got it in mind that the Asking Lever for Blasting (and what colour are they?) released a Blasting Token. Given that the line through Matlock was quite busy, this still leaves quit a few unanswered questions. I can only imagine that blasting was done at pre arranged quiet times. I imagine it was also considered an obstruction for block working purposes.
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Re: Matlock pre Beeching 1950s early 60s

Unread postby JRB » Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:37 pm

There was a similar situation at Oxford where the stone yard crane needed permission to foul the line into Rewley Road.
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Re: Matlock pre Beeching 1950s early 60s

Unread postby JG Morgan » Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:57 pm

As to the lever colours ...
Black with white chevrons seems appropriate ... but probably not what was used.
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Re: Matlock pre Beeching 1950s early 60s

Unread postby Mike Hodgson » Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:53 pm

JG Morgan wrote:Black with white chevrons seems appropriate ... but probably not what was used.



:? Chevrons pointing which way ? Stripes like a single line would seem more appropriate
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Re: Matlock pre Beeching 1950s early 60s

Unread postby John Hinson » Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:08 am

The asking lever would almost certainly have been green.

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Re: Matlock pre Beeching 1950s early 60s

Unread postby John » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:01 am

Thanks John.

Sketch does not seem to be loading properly or am I missing something?
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Re: Matlock pre Beeching 1950s early 60s

Unread postby John Hinson » Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:49 am

John wrote:Sketch does not seem to be loading properly or am I missing something?

Sorry - something I did without realising.

It should be OK now, if it still shows the same please refresh the page.

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Re: Matlock pre Beeching 1950s early 60s

Unread postby S&TEngineer » Wed Nov 22, 2017 3:22 pm

John Hinson wrote:
John wrote:Sketch does not seem to be loading properly or am I missing something?

Sorry - something I did without realising.

It should be OK now, if it still shows the same please refresh the page.

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It's working OK again now. :D
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Re: Matlock pre Beeching 1950s early 60s

Unread postby John » Thu Nov 23, 2017 8:42 am

Thanks John
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Re: Matlock pre Beeching 1950s early 60s

Unread postby kestreleyes » Mon Dec 4, 2017 8:54 pm

Indeed the stop shunt signal lies about where 33 on the plan is, I found the remains of its post and the operating mechanism when doing riverside, I do have a picture courtesy of mr G Wainwright,which il try and get posted on here, you can find it through the peak rail signalling pages "before closure 2" pages hopefully on this link. http://dominic-beglin.magix.net/website ... _2.12.html
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