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Truncation (or not) of box names

Unread postby Adrian the Rock » Thu Jul 1, 2010 8:42 pm

boxbasher1, in the Working of Penryn loop thread wrote:...In some places the suffixes have been left years after they were necessary: Newland East for example, and Evesham (WR) which still display the full title on the box diagram, nameplate and drawings, and I think have never been officially renamed. OH and Worcester Shrub Hill STATION signalbox.....is it just that area that never clipped the names? Can't think of any elsewhere come to think of it?

dscroggins wrote:Stourbridge Junction Middle
Bearley West Junction
Abergavenny Station
Craven Arms Crossing
Chard Junction
Ystrad Mynach South
Gobowen North
Croesnewydd North Fork
Nantwich Station
Goonbarrow Junction
Roskear Junction
Greenford East Station

All seem to have redundant parts of their name.

On the other hand

Churchill and Blakedown
(until 1990) Cradley Heath and Cradley East (may have got the detail of what was dropped out wrong here).
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Re: Truncation (or not) of box names

Unread postby Alan Roberts » Thu Jul 1, 2010 9:30 pm

Adrian the Rock wrote:
boxbasher1, in the Working of Penryn loop thread wrote:...In some places the suffixes have been left years after they were necessary: Newland East for example, and Evesham (WR) which still display the full title on the box diagram, nameplate and drawings, and I think have never been officially renamed. OH and Worcester Shrub Hill STATION signalbox.....is it just that area that never clipped the names? Can't think of any elsewhere come to think of it?

dscroggins wrote:Stourbridge Junction Middle
Bearley West Junction
Abergavenny Station
Craven Arms Crossing
Chard Junction
Ystrad Mynach South
Gobowen North
Croesnewydd North Fork
Nantwich Station
Goonbarrow Junction
Roskear Junction
Greenford East Station

All seem to have redundant parts of their name.

On the other hand

Churchill and Blakedown
(until 1990) Cradley Heath and Cradley East (may have got the detail of what was dropped out wrong here).



Diggle Junction
Holywell Junction

Junctions no more !

Plumley West (original CLC nameboard) - East box closed many years ago.


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Re: Truncation (or not) of box names

Unread postby dscroggins » Fri Jul 2, 2010 6:45 am

Pull off and stand back.
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Re: Truncation (or not) of box names

Unread postby MickC1440 » Fri Jul 2, 2010 2:36 pm

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Re: Truncation (or not) of box names

Unread postby Tulyar15 » Fri Jul 2, 2010 4:36 pm

Adrian the Rock wrote:
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Churchill and Blakedown


I went past that box the other. It still has its GWR Nameplate with the full name on - AND all the letters picked out. (I believe at one time a few years the word "Churchill" was obscured by painting the area around it on the plate white; will have to check some old photos.)
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Re: Truncation (or not) of box names

Unread postby JRB » Fri Jul 2, 2010 5:37 pm

ASTROP SIDING SIGNAL BOX had the 'SIDING' sawn out of the cast plate and the two ends moved together
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Re: Truncation (or not) of box names

Unread postby Peter Jordan » Fri Jul 2, 2010 5:38 pm

You are quite correct in recalling that the word 'Churchill &' was painted out for a long time at Blakedown.

Remember that back in the mid-1960's BR had a 'downer' on station names that said 'Somewhere AND Somewhere' like 'Churchill & Blakedown' or 'Knowle & Dorridge.' The former station became simply 'Blakedown' while the latter became 'Dorridge.' In such circumstances it was ( I suppose) logical to paint the box nameplate so that it reflected the new title of the station.

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Re: Truncation (or not) of box names

Unread postby JRB » Fri Jul 2, 2010 5:41 pm

The LMR changed K & D to just 'KNOWLE' because it was the first part of the name. Local pressure had it corrected.
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Re: Truncation (or not) of box names

Unread postby Chris Osment » Fri Jul 2, 2010 6:45 pm

Chard Junction - whilst it may no longer be a junction (shame), it is of course one of those places where the locality has taken its name from the railway (as with the late lamented Hawill Junction). So maybe now it is just a case of the railway taking the name (back) from the locality?
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Re: Truncation (or not) of box names

Unread postby Peter Jordan » Fri Jul 2, 2010 8:11 pm

Or Halwill Junction even! Another West Country example is the hamlet(?) of 'Otterham Station.'

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Re: Truncation (or not) of box names

Unread postby Alan Roberts » Fri Jul 2, 2010 10:41 pm

Peter Jordan wrote:Or Halwill Junction even! Another West Country example is the hamlet(?) of 'Otterham Station.'

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Workington Main No2
Workington Main No3


Goes back to the time when Workington had more than one station - the other station was Workington Central.

Whitehaven signalbox named Bransty - taken from the original station name as Whitehaven Bransty.

Norton signalbox located at the end of Runcorn East station (Chester - Warrington). An original Norton station SB existed on the Warrington side of the present box at Norton Station (closed). Anyone know why the new station was opened as "Runcorn East" rather than Norton?

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Re: Truncation (or not) of box names

Unread postby boxbasher1 » Tue Jul 6, 2010 5:24 pm

A lot more than I remembered then!.....However some of those quoted, for example Stourbridge Junction Middle, is just a case of the old plate remaining when the box surely is officially just plain Stourbridge? What I was really talking about is places that officially retain their old name - which incidentally Churchill and Blakedown doesn't either, even though someone nicely painted it back in, after a few years of it being blacked out.
Anyway thanks lads, especially Danny for the extensive list.
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Re: Truncation (or not) of box names

Unread postby boxbasher1 » Tue Jul 6, 2010 5:25 pm

Alan Roberts wrote:
Peter Jordan wrote:Or Halwill Junction even! Another West Country example is the hamlet(?) of 'Otterham Station.'

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Workington Main No2
Workington Main No3


Goes back to the time when Workington had more than one station - the other station was Workington Central.

Whitehaven signalbox named Bransty - taken from the original station name as Whitehaven Bransty.

Norton signalbox located at the end of Runcorn East station (Chester - Warrington). An original Norton station SB existed on the Warrington side of the present box at Norton Station (closed). Anyone know why the new station was opened as "Runcorn East" rather than Norton?

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Whilst its just a guess, is it not just a case that Runcorn had not sprawled that far out when it was known as Norton? - but now the growing town has swallowed what was presumably a small village before??
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Re: Truncation (or not) of box names

Unread postby boxbasher1 » Tue Jul 6, 2010 5:28 pm



Another example where some "good egg" has preserved the old name plate, but I'm pretty sure this one has no "east" suffix as far as officialdom are concerned. Incidentally, a very interesting box, with a bit of everything in really!
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Re: Truncation (or not) of box names

Unread postby Keith » Thu Jul 8, 2010 10:56 pm

JRB wrote:The LMR changed K & D to just 'KNOWLE' because it was the first part of the name. Local pressure had it corrected.
Nobody seemed to bother when Langside & Newlands became Langside, even though it's in Newlands - so presumably new students for Langside College still get off there and wonder why the college is nowhere to be seen. That was also the only station I know of where there was only one signal and it was half way along the platform - strangely enough, I now have the arm. :roll:
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