Mike Hodgson wrote:In addition to the ordinary need for balancing of tokens, it would also be necessary to ensure the Annetts Keys worked back in due course, so presumably it wasn't just a case of issuing plain tokens to trains not stopping, sometimes it would be how the Annetts Keys got home. Most of these sidings could only conveniently be worked in one direction, so there would be a tendency for the keys to accumulate at the advance end. The box in rear finding the Annetts Keys were all at the wrong end when he needed one is perhaps an easier mistake to make, but again I have never heard any mention of it.
davidwoodcock wrote:Local instruction, perhaps, that in the reverse direction any available tokens+AKs should always be issued in preference to plain ones. An easy instruction to adhere to which would ensure that the tokens+AKs would always migrate to the end of the section where they were needed.
Mike Hodgson wrote:davidwoodcock wrote:Local instruction, perhaps, that in the reverse direction any available tokens+AKs should always be issued in preference to plain ones. An easy instruction to adhere to which would ensure that the tokens+AKs would always migrate to the end of the section where they were needed.
Eminently reasonable of course, but would the GWR have taken the trouble to spell this out in their "footnotes" or would they have relied on signalmen's common sense? Such an instruction is not safety-critical - its impact is only inconvenience/delay.
davidwoodcock wrote:after all it wasn't unknown for pilotman working to be introduced because it actually proved impossible to staff essential single line boxes.
Mike Hodgson wrote:Those all have keys on the ends, so unless there are plain ones at the other end, the accumulation problem doesn't arise.
davidwoodcock wrote:Yes, John, it probably requires more staff in total but the point is that none of those staff have to be signalmen passed out for the relevant boxes. I assure you that it happened and sometimes for weeks on end, the boxes concerned were at locations where no trains were booked to pass (in the thinner timetables imposed prior to "Beeching" closures) but which had no provision for the introduction of long-section working.
S&TEngineer wrote:Mmm....There appear to be three key tokens in the middle left hand magazine slot and the bottom one doesn't seem to have an Annetts Key end.
John Hinson wrote:Weeks on end? Holy smoke. I wonder how they got away with that without HQ finding out. A person qualified to act as Responsible Officer or Pilotman should be able to train and pass out a branch line box in a day.
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