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Shirebrook Sidings - uh?

Unread postby John Hinson » Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:35 pm

This picture came as a surprise.

Does anybody know how, when or why a Stevens dwarf frame came to be fitted on Midland Railway territory at Shirebrook Sidings? I believe the box was a 1971 replacement so I guess this was under BR(E) but where would Leyton Works get a frame of this type from?

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Very odd indeed.

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Re: Shirebrook Sidings - uh?

Unread postby davidwoodcock » Sat Mar 25, 2017 4:09 pm

Almost every signalling manufacturer made its own version of the Stevens knee frame, keeping to the standard dimensions so that bits and pieces could be freely interchanged. Given Leyton's involvement it is quite possible that there are bits from several different makers in there - plus bits of Leyton's own manufacture.
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Re: Shirebrook Sidings - uh?

Unread postby Richard Pike » Sat Mar 25, 2017 4:38 pm

It looks like a BTC E&NER ground frame to me. Possibly one of Leyton's finest?
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Re: Shirebrook Sidings - uh?

Unread postby John Hinson » Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:59 pm

Ah, you might have hit the nail on the head there. Records show the lever spacing as 3¾" which would be right for that type. But don't they usually have spring catches? I don't recall seeing weighted catch blocks on a ground frame before.

I guess I was misled by the neat wooden casing too.

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Re: Shirebrook Sidings - uh?

Unread postby Richard Pike » Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:02 pm

The North Eastern Region preferred that type of gravity catch block.
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Re: Shirebrook Sidings - uh?

Unread postby John Hinson » Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:10 pm

Hmmm, I'm sinking into mud here because I remember a discussion I started here about such a frame on the NER. Good point.

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Unread postby Richard Pike » Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:58 pm

I didn't know about this little set up until the other day and rummaging through Flickr. Can i find the pictures now? Beginning to think i dreamt it.
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Re: Shirebrook Sidings - uh?

Unread postby Richard Pike » Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:07 pm

It wasn't Flickr.. That's why i couldn't find it..

http://signalboxes.com/shirebrook-sidings.php
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Re: Shirebrook Sidings - uh?

Unread postby John Hinson » Sun Mar 26, 2017 3:58 am

Richard Pike wrote:It wasn't Flickr.. That's why i couldn't find it..

http://signalboxes.com/shirebrook-sidings.php

Thanks for that link. I hadn't seen a picture of the 85-lever box before.

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Re: Shirebrook Sidings - uh?

Unread postby MickC1440 » Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:17 pm

Unfortunately the original box had a visit from the local pyromaniacs resulting in the portacabin set up in the picture.
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