Matlock pre Beeching 1950s early 60s

[John]

MATLOCK: Has anyone got a sketch of the signalling arrangements prior the Beeching closure north of Matlock - late 1950's/early 1960s period.

[John Hinson]

Herewith a c1960 diagram:
https://signalbox.org/diagrams.php?id=1180

Hope that helps,

John

[Mike Hodgson]

Asking lever for blasting - how did that work? Your diagram doesn't show one of those crossbar "stop blast & shunting signals". I would have expected the quarry to ask for the OK when they wanted to blast, but presumably they could do so by default and the lever in the box is to ask them to desist? How would they indicate to the box when it was safe for trains to shunt or run?

[John Hinson]

No idea.

[Pete2320]

I've got it in mind that the Asking Lever for Blasting (and what colour are they?) released a Blasting Token. Given that the line through Matlock was quite busy, this still leaves quit a few unanswered questions. I can only imagine that blasting was done at pre arranged quiet times. I imagine it was also considered an obstruction for block working purposes.
"Kestreleyes" might know the answers.

[JRB]

There was a similar situation at Oxford where the stone yard crane needed permission to foul the line into Rewley Road.

[JG Morgan]

As to the lever colours ...
Black with white chevrons seems appropriate ... but probably not what was used.

[Mike Hodgson]

Black with white chevrons seems appropriate ... but probably not what was used.

Chevrons pointing which way ? Stripes like a single line would seem more appropriate

[John Hinson]

The asking lever would almost certainly have been green.

John

[John]

Thanks John.

Sketch does not seem to be loading properly or am I missing something?

[John Hinson]

Sketch does not seem to be loading properly or am I missing something?

Sorry - something I did without realising.

It should be OK now, if it still shows the same please refresh the page.

John

[S&TEngineer]

Sketch does not seem to be loading properly or am I missing something?

Sorry - something I did without realising.

It should be OK now, if it still shows the same please refresh the page.

John

It's working OK again now.

[John]

Thanks John

[kestreleyes]

Indeed the stop shunt signal lies about where 33 on the plan is, I found the remains of its post and the operating mechanism when doing riverside, I do have a picture courtesy of mr G Wainwright,which il try and get posted on here, you can find it through the peak rail signalling pages "before closure 2" pages hopefully on this link. http://dominic-beglin.magix.net/website ... _2.12.html

[Chris Rideout]

Asking lever for blasting - how did that work? Your diagram doesn't show one of those crossbar "stop blast & shunting signals". I would have expected the quarry to ask for the OK when they wanted to blast, but presumably they could do so by default and the lever in the box is to ask them to desist? How would they indicate to the box when it was safe for trains to shunt or run?

The asking lever was usually provided at a ground frame and when operated, would show a "want ground frame" indication in the controlling signal box. This was popular on the LBSC lines and the colour of the lever was probably green. However, distant signal levers were painted green until the early 1900s, so there may have been a combination of colours to prevent confusion with distant signal levers, gong levers, etc. Green with black or white chevrons would be a choice not seen on other apparatus.