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Unread postby Mike Stone » Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:09 pm

Can anyone confirm there is a signalled route for the banker to cross over at the north end of the station and run wrong road to the crossover at the Gloucester end of the loop?
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Re: Bromsgrove

Unread postby Peter Jordan » Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:16 am

Can't confirm but I would expect that that remains a signalled move from the period when the station had only one platform.

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Re: Bromsgrove

Unread postby Mike Stone » Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:27 am

Sorry, not making myself clear - SA shows the line reversible through the platform but not between the trailing mains crossover and the crossovers between the up and the loop / bank engine spur (not that I would expect it to) and Quail suggests that a move to get past a train already in the loop (as yesterday) requires a complicated shunt through the former oil terminal.
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Re: Bromsgrove

Unread postby Fosse Road » Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:37 pm

The markings on the panel face and the positions of the route exit buttons suggest that the Up Main is indeed reversible between the crossovers. The exit buttons are yellow so they're obviously only for shunt routes. The Up Main is marked "UP - MAIN - DOWN" with associated directional arrows (non-illuminated) and the signal at the south end of the Up platform has a sub-route from there to the PLGS (G412) that protects the points into the Up Loop, with a route from G412 to the Engine Spur. The points leading to the former Oil Terminal are shown as disconnected and clipped out of use.
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Re: Bromsgrove

Unread postby Mike Stone » Fri Aug 31, 2012 8:15 pm

Thanks.
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It will be interesting to see how they cope with a train waiting a banker if/when the station is moved onto the loops.
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Re: Bromsgrove

Unread postby Adrian the Rock » Sun Sep 2, 2012 10:13 am

Certainly the Gloucester SimSig simulation lets you signal returning bankers across the facing crossover, down the up platform, and into the banker spur either via the loop or via the other connection further south.
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Re: Bromsgrove

Unread postby S&TEngineer » Sun Sep 2, 2012 4:41 pm

Maybe this will help answer your question (as in 2002):
http://cbrailways.co.uk/PhotoAlbums/alb ... xtract.jpg
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Re: Bromsgrove

Unread postby Mike Stone » Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:43 am

Although largely dealt with in the LNW route plan (presumably confirming transfer to Saltley SCC), the GW route plans refer to "at least one new platform face (bay)" whereas other recent pronouncements suggested that the new station would have two island platforms and that the platform loops would be seperate from the goods loops.
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Re: Bromsgrove

Unread postby The Planner » Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:36 pm

It still isn't finally decided what layout will be put in, it is certain though that a centre turnback is required for the proposed extension of the Cross City to work.
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Re: Bromsgrove

Unread postby Mike Stone » Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:40 pm

I had assumed a centre turnback would be ruled out on the basis that it would involve an unacceptable slew of one or other of the main lines between the foot of the incline and the station - any conflicting moves effectively replacing those at Longbridge.
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Re: Bromsgrove

Unread postby The Planner » Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:47 pm

Far from it, there have been some quite wild suggestions and diagrammed plans of two centre turnbacks with the fasts round the outside with little or no reduction in line speed.
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Re: Bromsgrove

Unread postby Mike Stone » Tue Jan 15, 2013 8:50 pm

http://www.worcestershire.gov.uk/cms/pd ... e%20V1.pdf
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shows four platforms and a separate up goods/fast, but unfortunately no indication of any connections at the Birmingham end between the up and down lines.
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Re: Bromsgrove

Unread postby The Planner » Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:48 pm

That really is an artists impression, the final layout has yet to be decided.
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Re: Bromsgrove

Unread postby Mike Stone » Sat Nov 15, 2014 7:24 pm

Passing during the week I was sitting on the wrong side, but some new track appeared to have been laid on the upside.
Train planning rules shows platforms 1 and 2 to be 150 metres from May 2015 and platforms 1 to 4 are shown 150 metres in the 2016 edition.
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I couldn't spot any major possession in connection with the work, although there are some references to Bromsgrove-Eckington resignalling. I'm guessing that the main lines might be slued to use the new island 1,2 while they build the second.
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