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Re: Kenilworth

Unread postby Train approaching » Sun Feb 21, 2016 3:47 pm

Mike Stone wrote:Thought i had already posted this, but the Enhancement Delivery Plan mentions slewing the existing line and a new crossover at Kenilworth, but doesn't seem to refer to doubling as such.


Would that in essence extend the loop from Leamington Spa ,moving the current Milverton Junction further towards Coventry, or involve extending the Kenilworth loop so that the current Kenilworth South Junction is moved further towards Leamington Spa? Would there be any benefit in doing that if the station was just going to be a single platform?
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Re: Kenilworth

Unread postby The Planner » Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:38 pm

Two separate schemes but interlinked, Kenilworth and the re-doubling. The latter is dying a slow death so the former will get tweaked. The redoubling is effectively just extending the loop to Milverton and removing all the crossovers so the loop doesn't exist (apart from the one that would need to be put it to allow access out of the bay at Leamington)
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Re: Kenilworth

Unread postby Train approaching » Sun Feb 21, 2016 6:07 pm

Just found this thread from 2013 and it mentions that it was always planned for Kenilworth to be a single platform, so will the tweaking of the Kenilworth loop plans (extending the loop to Milverton) mean that it is now planned for the station to have two platforms?

http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread. ... 711&page=5
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Re: Kenilworth

Unread postby Mike Stone » Mon Feb 22, 2016 12:38 pm

OOPS - Enhancement Delivery Plan actually refers to a new crossover at Milverton, not Kenilworth.
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Re: Kenilworth

Unread postby mikeh » Wed Feb 24, 2016 3:42 pm

The station site is the former builders merchants yard, which was the original goods yard.
There are boards along the Priory Road frontage with artists impressions of the completed station and still proclaiming opening December 2016.

However, the latest Warwick CC statement says:

Construction work on the Kenilworth Rail Station site will now begin this year and will be completed in early 2017, with passenger services from Kenilworth operational later in 2017.

Network Rail will be carrying out significant infrastructure works during 2017, including signalling upgrades and the relaying of the track through Kenilworth. These works are required to enable the new train service to operate for Kenilworth Station. Both projects are now aligned to ensure delivery of an operational station from August 2017.

Warwickshire County Council and train operator London Midland are working hard to ensure that everything is in place for the start of passenger services in 2017, including sourcing the appropriate diesel rolling stock to operate the service at a time when diesel trains are in high demand.

The planning permission was for two platforms and these plans are still current on the Council website.

So far, apart from site clearance and new fencing there has been no actual work on site.

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Re: Kenilworth

Unread postby Mike Stone » Tue Oct 25, 2016 9:07 pm

Mike Stone wrote:OOPS - Enhancement Delivery Plan actually refers to a new crossover at Milverton, not Kenilworth.

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I presume this is to be Foundry Wood Junction, refered to in the 2018 train planning rules, now on line.
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Re: Kenilworth

Unread postby mikeh » Tue Oct 25, 2016 10:18 pm

Work on the station is now well underway with the site of the "down" platform and buildings now cleared and the ground consolidated.

With the Hendy report pushing double tracking into the long grass current plan seems to be a single platform with provision for a second at a later date.

The council website has this latest plan

https://kenilworthstation.wordpress.com ... an-layout/

From the layout of the worksite this will still require the slewing of the existing single line to approximately the old down line formation.

As far as I can see browsing the NR site the only planned possesion where this could take place is:

week 52 - P2016/2244980 MD405 Leamington Spa Jn-Gibbet Hill Jn - All lines 25/03/17 2230 Sat to 27/03/17 0500 Mon - Work type - W2016/5218234 Major projects - 4m10ch

But is that too much work for that relatively short time frame? Perhaps someone more in the know can comment?

Word on the street is a single dogbox with an hourly frequency between COV & LMS, but not linked to the COV-NUN service, which seems slightly bizarre...

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Re: Kenilworth

Unread postby Mike Stone » Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:41 pm

If there is a need to slue the existing track surely it would be nearly as easy to double the line from the start not to mention saving two point ends?
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Re: Kenilworth

Unread postby The Planner » Wed Oct 26, 2016 8:45 am

Not when you don't have any money it isn't
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Re: Kenilworth

Unread postby The Planner » Wed Oct 26, 2016 8:46 am

mikeh wrote:Word on the street is a single dogbox with an hourly frequency between COV & LMS, but not linked to the COV-NUN service, which seems slightly bizarre...


We can't timetable it across Coventry, thus why the bay platform next to P1 at Coventry will be built (eventually..)
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Re: Kenilworth

Unread postby Train approaching » Mon Jan 9, 2017 10:42 am

I see that the opening has now been delayed to December.

NR are claiming problems with delivering the track and signalling upgrades are behind the delay. It all seems a bit vague!
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Re: Kenilworth

Unread postby The Planner » Mon Jan 9, 2017 7:28 pm

It is down to £££ and the decision over slewing or temporary building out of the platform.
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Re: Kenilworth

Unread postby Signal-sighter » Mon Jan 9, 2017 11:45 pm

I think many outside the industry (and a fair few within!) don't realise just how hard up for cash Network Rail really is.
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Re: Kenilworth

Unread postby Train approaching » Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:42 am

The Planner wrote:It is down to £££ and the decision over slewing or temporary building out of the platform.


Thanks for this. When is a decision due whether to slew or build out and how long is "temporary" going to be for, if it is decided to build out?
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Re: Kenilworth

Unread postby Mike Stone » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:37 pm

No trains in any case, as the plan to put a 230 on the Nuneaton service is said to have been abandoned following its fire, on what to me are the spurious grounds that trials cannot be completed before the change of franchise.
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How much have they wasted on the fancy new website, which has removed/hidden massive amounts of information?
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