DY444 wrote:Iirc there was an issue at Basingstoke after resignalling with a platform mounted banner being restored when the train passed it giving the impression to the guard that the platform signal (which the guard couldn't see) was at Danger. I think it was subsequently changed so that the banner was only restored when the signal went back to danger.
RobMorel wrote:Up slow platform at St Albans (city) has a banner repeater WH268 BR tht does the same, with block joint visible ahead on outside rail
This gives the appearance to other trains on the up fast or platform dispatch staff working on approach to signal dealing with 12 car trains that the up slow service is 'starting against a red signal when actually WH268 is displaying a proceed aspect but the banner has returned to 'on' the moment the leading end of the movement has passed it......
AFAIR, the first measure to combat 'ding ding and away's was a Rule change requiring (in addition to Drivers observing platform starting signals), that dispatch staff (guard and/or platform staff) should also check signals before giving 'right away'.JG Morgan wrote: " .... Many readers of this Forum will remember the collisions / near-misses in the 1970s / 80s when the guard or platform staff gave the "Right Away" and the driver proceeded, without checking the platform starter signal. I suppose with the introduction of TPWS, any such error would result in the train being stopped before a point of conflict, so the risk is considered negligible. "
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