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Unread postby puffernutter » Thu May 18, 2017 7:17 pm

A bit of a wanted, but also some idea of where any may be left - so I can contact the local S&T :-)

I've been after a mechanical banner for my collection for a few years, when I first started asking, any replaced by fibre optic versions were "strategic spares", it looks like though I've missed the boat and all are now LED and very few mechanical versions are left!

So, can anyone help please? Where are they still in use (and my be resignalled, so I may stand a chance) or are there any for sale (at a sensible price!)

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Re: Mechanical Banner Repeaters

Unread postby John Hinson » Fri May 19, 2017 3:58 am

By mechanical, do you mean the Sykes electro-mechanical type?

If so, I think there may be more than you realise. There was one on the platform at Carlisle staring passengers in the face very recently - I can't think of a reason why it shouldn't still be there but I could be wrong of course. So perhaps the places to look are those that have been resignalled, but a long time ago.

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Re: Mechanical Banner Repeaters

Unread postby puffernutter » Fri May 19, 2017 6:47 am

John,

That is the sort. They are classed a a "relay" and thus need servicing every 10 years and Unipart weren't that keep to take on that role (or so I was told). As I understand it, that that was one of the reasons they were being replaced.

So, one in the Carlise area, that's a start!

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Re: Mechanical Banner Repeaters

Unread postby John Hinson » Fri May 19, 2017 7:53 am

Also quite likely some still at Beattock Summit (and perhaps northwards) and also Dumfries.

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PS - I checked the date and Carlisle was 2014. How time flies. I can't see why it shouldn't still be there unless replaced under the 10 year reason you mention.

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Re: Mechanical Banner Repeaters

Unread postby puffernutter » Fri May 19, 2017 8:38 am

John,

Thanks,. That is exactly what I'm after. They have a certain character!

A supplementary question - does any know who I could contact in that area (NR or contractors) who may know if and when any of them in that area may be coming out of service?

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Re: Mechanical Banner Repeaters

Unread postby Alistair Larter » Fri May 19, 2017 5:08 pm

Carlisle, Perth, Ayr,Dumfries . I may have one in stock surplus to requirements. I will have a look tomorrow
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Re: Mechanical Banner Repeaters

Unread postby puffernutter » Fri May 19, 2017 5:59 pm

Alistair,

Thank you. Very kind.

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Re: Mechanical Banner Repeaters

Unread postby The Planner » Fri May 19, 2017 6:12 pm

Pretty sure there is one on the down approaching Birmingham International station, which may fit your requirements as that gets re-signaled late May bank holiday next year.
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Re: Mechanical Banner Repeaters

Unread postby Is Line Clear » Fri May 19, 2017 6:34 pm

I doubt if the one I saw at Chester in June 2015 will be redundant soon. It was on the platform for the electrified lines and looked at first as though it was straight out of the works. Closer examination showed it had been carefully restored (an electro mechanical type). All power to the S & T for the area for doing such a great job. Couldn't get a photo as my camera had gone haywire :-(
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Re: Mechanical Banner Repeaters

Unread postby scarpa » Fri May 19, 2017 9:37 pm

There is two just outside Glasgow soon to be replaced they are lower quadrant just outside Eglington tunnel . May be one at Feltham or nearby station on the down line
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Re: Mechanical Banner Repeaters

Unread postby Alan Roberts » Sat May 20, 2017 12:05 am

Is Line Clear wrote:I doubt if the one I saw at Chester in June 2015 will be redundant soon. It was on the platform for the electrified lines and looked at first as though it was straight out of the works. Closer examination showed it had been carefully restored (an electro mechanical type). All power to the S & T for the area for doing such a great job. Couldn't get a photo as my camera had gone haywire :-(

Chester has two other mechanical banners on the down fast and slow lines protecting Roodee Junction. Llandudno Junction also has one for LJ62 signal (Up Passenger Loop) Platform 1.
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Re: Mechanical Banner Repeaters

Unread postby John Webb » Sat May 20, 2017 8:52 am

The Heritage Railway Association has its contacts within Network Rail regarding surplus equipment disposal. If you belong to the HRA, or to a Society who are members of it, that may be a way in.
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Re: Mechanical Banner Repeaters

Unread postby John Hinson » Sat May 20, 2017 9:18 am

If it is unchanged since 1995, the one at Dumfries Station looks interesting:
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Re: Mechanical Banner Repeaters

Unread postby Alistair Larter » Sat May 20, 2017 12:32 pm

Dumfries has a large banner facing up the running line which is the variety with a seperate lamp mounted behind. It has a repeating banner facing down the line on the opposite direction which is a small type banner of which I have only seen on southern region. Both banners are co acting
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Re: Mechanical Banner Repeaters

Unread postby John Webb » Sat May 20, 2017 1:15 pm

Alistair Larter wrote:Dumfries has a large banner facing up the running line which is the variety with a seperate lamp mounted behind. It has a repeating banner facing down the line on the opposite direction which is a small type banner of which I have only seen on southern region. Both banners are co acting

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