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Re: CP5 Re-signalling/Re-control Scheme Forecast Commissioni

Unread postby 31422 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:50 pm

Mike Stone wrote:A NR press release issued last week refers to "recontrol" from Ferriby to Gilberdyke, which I initially misread as meaning it was happening next weekend. However a report on another group suggests it will now not happen this year.


Meeting on Feb 27t to announce decision on 'go/no go'

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Re: CP5 Re-signalling/Re-control Scheme Forecast Commissioni

Unread postby DaveHarries » Sat Feb 24, 2018 12:14 pm

31422 wrote:
Mike Stone wrote:A NR press release issued last week refers to "recontrol" from Ferriby to Gilberdyke, which I initially misread as meaning it was happening next weekend. However a report on another group suggests it will now not happen this year.


Meeting on Feb 27t to announce decision on 'go/no go'

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Re: CP5 Re-signalling/Re-control Scheme Forecast Commissioni

Unread postby The Planner » Tue Feb 27, 2018 4:13 pm

No go for a good while apparently?
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Re: CP5 Re-signalling/Re-control Scheme Forecast Commissioni

Unread postby Mike Stone » Tue Feb 27, 2018 6:58 pm

Yet here we have a press release from NR telling us how wonderful the digital railway is going to be
https://www.networkrail.co.uk/digital-r ... -capacity/

and this issued yesterday quoting this year
https://www.networkrail.co.uk/feeds/res ... crossings/
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Re: CP5 Re-signalling/Re-control Scheme Forecast Commissioni

Unread postby S&TEngineer » Wed Feb 28, 2018 3:04 pm

This was posted in the public domain elsewhere today (28/02/2018):

LNE & EM Route – ROC Migration Strategy
Ferriby-Gilberdyke Resignalling
Scheme Update - 27 February 2018

Commissioning Update
We are now in a position to confirm a decision on the planned commissioning of the Ferriby-Gilberdyke re-signalling for Easter 2018.

Regrettably, the commissioning will not go ahead at the Easter 2018 weekend.

The commissioning cannot proceed as planned due to issues relating to end-to-end communications
between area locations and York ROC. As part of the scheme, new and novel equipment is being used in
the industry for the first time and there is still a significant amount of testing which needs to be completed.
As a consequence, the project cannot confidently make a decision to go ahead and has therefore decided
not to commission at Easter 2018.

There will still be 77 hours of disruptive access over the Easter weekend which will be used to continue the
testing. There are a further 29 hours of access mid-late May 2018 providing further opportunity for testing.
Beyond this timescale, there is no additional access agreed with train and freight operating companies in
respect of the scheme.

The project is now focused on getting a stable testing plan in place, following which we will have a better
understanding of what needs to be negotiated with train operating companies for a revised commissioning
period.

At the present time, there are no known timescales for a revised commissioning period. We understand
that you will be anxious to know when commissioning will take place. We also recognise that there will be
rumours circulating as to potential timeframes for a revised commissioning, such as Christmas 2018 or
Easter 2019. We can assure you that the scheme will still go ahead but cannot commit to a revised date
as yet until access has been agreed.


There is a further bit more concerned with the impact on NR staff involved, that I have edited out, as it seemed inappropriate to include it here.

...oh, and by the way, welcome to the Digital Railway.... :roll:
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Re: CP5 Re-signalling/Re-control Scheme Forecast Commissioni

Unread postby colin1501 » Fri Mar 2, 2018 8:40 am

I understood Harrogate to York was due to be resignalled in 2019, but it doesn't appear in the list above. Does anyone know what the position is with this route?

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Re: CP5 Re-signalling/Re-control Scheme Forecast Commissioni

Unread postby collexions » Mon Mar 5, 2018 5:05 pm

...oh, and by the way, welcome to the Digital Railway.... :roll:

What does this scheme have to do with the Digital Railway? No ETCS, TM, C-DAS etc.

A relock to a CBI interlocking and re-control to a ROC aren't central tenets of the Digital Railway.
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Re: CP5 cRe-signalling/Re-control Scheme Forecast Commission

Unread postby robert7111a » Sat Apr 21, 2018 9:02 pm

Peter Gibbons wrote:Not all the signals on the Newhaven and Seaford line are colour light signals though. There are still a couple of semaphore signals about and most of the points at Newhaven Harbour still mechanically worked. In addition Absolute Block still exists between Newhaven Town and Newhaven Harbour.

The only signals that were new in 2013 were those controlled from Newhaven Town, when I believe the lever frame was replaced by a temporary panel. Lewes signal box is also due to go at some point, and that panel in that box dates from 1976.


Isn't there only one now - NH35 at the Harbour?
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Re: CP5 cRe-signalling/Re-control Scheme Forecast Commission

Unread postby Peter Gibbons » Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:30 am

robert7111a wrote:
Peter Gibbons wrote:Not all the signals on the Newhaven and Seaford line are colour light signals though. There are still a couple of semaphore signals about and most of the points at Newhaven Harbour still mechanically worked. In addition Absolute Block still exists between Newhaven Town and Newhaven Harbour.

The only signals that were new in 2013 were those controlled from Newhaven Town, when I believe the lever frame was replaced by a temporary panel. Lewes signal box is also due to go at some point, and that panel in that box dates from 1976.


Isn't there only one now - NH35 at the Harbour?


Plus NH40 Up Home coming off the Seaford line and NH39 Up Starting signal, at least they were all present very recently. There are also mechanical points there together with mechanical shunting signals.
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Re: CP5 Re-signalling/Re-control Scheme Forecast Commissioni

Unread postby KEVIN SMITH » Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:47 am

As there has not been to much coverage of the Newhaven area resignalling elsewhere would anybody like to fill me in on what it will involve ?
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