JRB wrote:Something a friend put to me: Why didn't the driver ask the signalman the reason for the Zs1? "Our West Highland drivers always query anything unusual with the Banavie signalman."
Remember that when the single-line head-on collision occurred in that area in the 1970s as a result of a timetabling error,
I think it is right to ask the question, and I hope it isn't just us that are asking it.
Frank wrote:Hello David,Remember that when the single-line head-on collision occurred in that area in the 1970s as a result of a timetabling error,
But the sad Drivers at that Time had a green Signal and no Chance to see that it was wrong.
davidwoodcock wrote:But those unfortunate drivers had every chance to see that there was a problem because it was printed in the timetable, even in the public Kursbuch. I was the head of BR's international timetabling section at the time and several of my staff knew personally the DB timetable-compilers who were subsequently dismissed for making such a terrible mistake. My understanding was that the staff on the ground made the classic mistakes of the "tick box" approach to safety, they noticed that there was a fatal error in the timetable but they all assumed that it was someone else's responsibility to do something about it so none of them did.
But those unfortunate drivers had every chance to see that there was a problem because it was printed in the timetable, even in the public Kursbuch.
In germany there is a difference between the public (Kursbuch) Timetable and the duty Timetable for the Staff.
davidwoodcock wrote:I think that John and Graham have forgotten that, until comparatively recent times, timetable working was commonplace on single lines in many European countries including France and Germany. This meant that the responsibility for normal safe working certainly rested on the compilers' shoulders and station "masters" merely authorised the departure of trains at the time shown in the timetable, other arrangements only coming into force when normal working was disrupted.
Are there lines carrying passengers still worked solely on timetable authority without a supervising dispatcher & some form of train order ?
From a distance it appears that the introduction of degraded working at Bad Aibling had too little checks and balances to ensure that the single line was clear or that the rules were not observed or both.
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