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Paighton South Level crossing

Unread postby scarpa » Sun Feb 15, 2015 6:30 pm

Unless its been altered in the last 3 years the level crossing is a manned barrier, the road is one way. What is peculiar is there is only one barrier and one set of wigwag crossing lights positioned on the direction of road traffic. Was this the arrangement before the heritage railway took it over? If it is its a risky installation.
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Re: Paighton South Level crossing

Unread postby John Webb » Sun Feb 15, 2015 7:10 pm

The most recent Streetview - see https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.43215,-3.565506,3a,75y,90h,80.06t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sGWwv9NlD1MlP_lXoB3lNYA!2e0 shows two barriers, one each side of the tracks, and two sets of 'wig-wags' facing the oncoming traffic.
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Re: Paighton South Level crossing

Unread postby scarpa » Sun Feb 15, 2015 9:09 pm

Apologies, it's the wigwags that are missing from the north side of the barriers. The road has not always been one way. Were wigwags provided before the heritage railway assumed control? I am surprised they are not installed if only as a warning to pedestrians or in case of a vehicle turning into the road by mistake.
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Re: Paighton South Level crossing

Unread postby Stuart Johnson » Sun Feb 15, 2015 9:40 pm

The level crossing is locally operated by traincrew or a shunter. Before resignalling, it was a conventional gated crossing operated from the adjacent box, Paignton South. The steam railway has running powers over that section of track.

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Re: Paighton South Level crossing

Unread postby davidwoodcock » Sun Feb 15, 2015 10:13 pm

No visual warnings at all for pedestrians coming the "wrong" way along the road, no CCTV monitoring (so far as I could see), no safe "escape" area and not even an accessible phone for someone caught inside the barriers.
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Re: Paighton South Level crossing

Unread postby Mike Stone » Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:01 am

It is TMO according to the appendix, but would appear to actually be done by a static operator when the steam railway is operating can verbally warn anyone caught.
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Re: Paignton South Level crossing

Unread postby dvr engineer » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:07 pm

The crossing is owned and maintained by Network Rail, so lets not bash the Heritage Railway.
The crossing is operated by the Driver or a member of the train crew who has a clear view of the crossing - the crossing control units are within 25M of the crossing. The crossing is a push and hold operation, not one shot, so the risk of hitting a pedestrian is minimised. A motorised mobillity scooter was hit a few years ago who decided that they would approach from the eastern side............... The pedestrians at present are warned by an audible warning, supplemented by visual indiactors (AKA Wigwags) on the western side.
The crossing is (was) up for renewal in 2010 (mmm it is now 2015 but we are talking Network Rail and still no sign of renewal), where pedestrian signals are proposed to be provided on the eastern side of the crossing. We wait with eager anticipation
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