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Unusual use of Red Flag?

Unread postby Chris Osment » Sun Aug 7, 2016 6:08 pm

A friend of mine travelled recently on a heritage railway that has an AOCL.

As his train approached the crossing it came to a stand, apparently as the white marker light was not operating. The guard got down and walked to the crossing carrying two red flags, which he used to stop the road traffic. He then waved one of the red flags at the train, which proceeded slowly over the crossing.

Not knowing the rule-book of the railway in question, but the use of a red flag to authorise a movement intrigues me. Might it have been a 'local arrangement'? Are there other situations where a red flag would be used to authorise 'proceed'?
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Re: Unusual use of Red Flag?

Unread postby Frank » Sun Aug 7, 2016 9:10 pm

Hello Chris,

might be more a arrangement between the Driver and the Guard.

Normaly a red Flag means STOP with no exception.......but if the Guard had to protect the Level Crossing with 2 red Flags....how should he wave the Train Driver ???..
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Re: Unusual use of Red Flag?

Unread postby Richard Lemon » Mon Aug 8, 2016 6:57 am

I will stand to be corrected, but I do not think any railway has the legal power to use a red flag to stop road traffic!

Certainly the use of a red flag between guard and driver in these circumstances sounds potentially dangerous!
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Re: Unusual use of Red Flag?

Unread postby JRB » Mon Aug 8, 2016 7:55 am

We discussed red flags & road traffic way back and found a very vague situation. It started when I queried a red flag with an octagonal stop sign superimposed. I forget how the train driver was invited to cross.
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