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Re: Collision in Germany

Unread postby Wilkinstown » Fri Apr 8, 2016 7:50 pm

Ok, thank you, the explanation is clear. Perhaps the weakness is the fact that one individual could institute degraded working without involving anybody else in the process.
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Re: Collision in Germany

Unread postby Frank » Tue Apr 12, 2016 7:42 pm

Hello,

today the Prosecutor (Staatsanwalt ) has announced, that the Signal Man is taken in custody.
https://www.polizei.bayern.de/oberbayer ... tml/239690

The cause of the Accident should be, that the Signal Man was playing a Online Game on his Smartphone and so he lost concentration on the Duty.

If so, that is horrible for a 39-Year old man,in that Age there should be much more sense of responsibility.
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Re: Collision in Germany

Unread postby davidwoodcock » Tue Apr 12, 2016 8:39 pm

Give someone a boring job and there will be a natural tendency for them to seek ways of alleviating that boredom.

Modern technology in a general sense presents as many problems in the workplace as alcohol or drugs, as research into the effects of using a mobile phone while driving on a road has shown, and yet the problem doesn't seem to be actively addressed, (it is, for example, illegal to use a hands-on mobile phone while driving in the UK yet the practice remains commonplace and the number of prosecutions minuscule).

It will be interesting to see what the response of the UK rail industry is - or are UK signallers already banned from possessing smartphones in the workplace?
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Re: Collision in Germany

Unread postby Fast Line Floyd » Wed Apr 13, 2016 9:53 am

davidwoodcock wrote:Give someone a boring job and there will be a natural tendency for them to seek ways of alleviating that boredom.

Modern technology in a general sense presents as many problems in the workplace as alcohol or drugs, as research into the effects of using a mobile phone while driving on a road has shown, and yet the problem doesn't seem to be actively addressed, (it is, for example, illegal to use a hands-on mobile phone while driving in the UK yet the practice remains commonplace and the number of prosecutions minuscule).

It will be interesting to see what the response of the UK rail industry is - or are UK signallers already banned from possessing smartphones in the workplace?

UK signallers are not permitted to use any mobile telephone whilst on duty.
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Re: Collision in Germany

Unread postby scarpa » Tue Dec 6, 2016 6:01 am

The signalman involved in the collision on the single line in Germany has been given a 3 years prison sentence.
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Re: Collision in Germany

Unread postby davidwoodcock » Tue Dec 6, 2016 9:15 am

scarpa wrote:The signalman involved in the collision on the single line in Germany has been given a 3 years prison sentence.


Which seems incredibly lenient in the circumstances since the fatal accident resulted from his deliberate inattention to his duties.
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Re: Collision in Germany

Unread postby John Hinson » Tue Dec 6, 2016 9:45 am

That is not for us to decide here.

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Re: Collision in Germany

Unread postby Frank » Fri Dec 9, 2016 10:55 pm

Hello,

the Chief Judge Erich Fuchs of the Distric Court in Traunstein decided it in the judgement.

From 5:11:23 Time until 6:45:59 Time on that Day he was Playing a Game on his Smartphone.....
Trapped in the Game

as the Chief Judge it describe .

At 6:47 Time both Trains collide.
Here the Press
http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/b ... 24498.html

A remark to that:
Which seems incredibly lenient


No, because in Criminal Law here the past life has major influence to the penalty. Also the Judge have a view of the Civil Law that follow the
Criminal Judgement.
The Signal Man had to pay Claim for damages to the People of the Trains.

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Re: Collision in Germany

Unread postby John Hinson » Sat Dec 10, 2016 4:21 am

All points are noted, but I am locking this thread because, as I said, this forum is not here to pass our own judgement on the levels of punishment applied.

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