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Midland Railway Signal Box Stairs

Unread postby John Webb » Tue Feb 6, 2018 8:58 pm

As a result of commenting on a photo of a model of Dent signal box in a recent model railway magazine, I have come to note that the photo of Buckden box at https://signalbox.org/gallery/lm/buckden.php has the stairs in line with the door, whereas later boxes, including St Albans South, have the stairs offset from the door. Likewise the original signal box at Long Meg on the Settle-Carlisle line also has the stairs in line with the door. (Plate 174 in Fox and Anderson "Stations and Structures of the S & C Railway.")

Did this offset start with type 2a MR boxes or were some Type 1 boxes also fitted with offset stairs?
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Re: Midland Railway Signal Box Stairs

Unread postby JRB » Tue Feb 6, 2018 10:14 pm

Maybe renewals failed to follow original.
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Re: Midland Railway Signal Box Stairs

Unread postby StevieG » Wed Feb 7, 2018 3:00 pm

JRB wrote:Maybe renewals failed to follow original.
Enabled construction of new alongside old ?
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Re: Midland Railway Signal Box Stairs

Unread postby Is Line Clear » Thu Feb 8, 2018 5:07 pm

Or in later days, stairs were offset (with landings) to reduce risk of Signalman falling down? Just a thought.
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Re: Midland Railway Signal Box Stairs

Unread postby John Webb » Thu Feb 8, 2018 8:37 pm

Is Line Clear wrote:Or in later days, stairs were offset (with landings) to reduce risk of Signalman falling down? Just a thought.

That's what we'd been told when we started out on restoring St Albans South! Having now seen photos of MR Type 1 boxes without off-set stairs but all later boxes with the off-set, I was trying to tie down a date (to a year, perhaps) as to when the change was made.
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Re: Midland Railway Signal Box Stairs

Unread postby Mike Hodgson » Thu Feb 8, 2018 11:48 pm

The offset stairs probably made it easier to add that ugly toilet extension to St Albans South
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Re: Midland Railway Signal Box Stairs

Unread postby John Webb » Fri Feb 9, 2018 9:32 am

Mike Hodgson wrote:The offset stairs probably made it easier to add that ugly toilet extension to St Albans South

Which is why we decided to restore the outside of the box to its 1950s appearance! The said toilet was added on around March 1963 by "Bob" - as revealed when it was blown down in December 2006, as he had signed and dated his handiwork.
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